Pastor Tom Roepke joined Heartfelt Mornings with Mark Zimmerman and Burchon English for what was a cracking conversation.
The focus was from when President Trump quipped on Fox News’ *Fox & Friends* that brokering peace between Russia and Ukraine might just nudge him up the celestial totem pole—his words, “I want to try and get to heaven if possible… really at the bottom of the totem pole!” (August 19, 2025)—he flung the door wide open for a proper theological chinwag.
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